![]() 07/25/2015 at 23:26 • Filed to: carbuying | ![]() | ![]() |
Anybody got one? Anything to look out for on the newer body style (10 and up)v6 models? Are the flappy paddles worth a damn? I am going to look at one this week sometime that my wife would like to replace our Mazda3 with. No clue if the mobile link will work, but this one.
http://m.cars.com/vehicledetail/…
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I have a friend in school that let me drive his 2008-2009 Outlander V6. Never asked which year it was. It had the CVT with the flappy paddles and I don’t think they updated the transmission for the 2010. It definitely felt more like a gimmick than something for spirited driving.
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Well that’s one way to avoid Doug’s problem: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/05/once-s…
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Apparently after the 2010 body style change the v6 got a normal 6 speed auto. Maybe it’s better
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Haha that is gold
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The link doesn’t work.
The Outlander is OK. It has that Subaru feel to the doors and interior materials (thin and cheapish, respectively), and I’ve had the trim ring around the ignition fall off on two that I’ve driven. I like the split rear tailgate on the previous generation that looked like a bigger Lancer (haven’t been in the new one yet), though you have to clean behind the plastic shields a lot as dirt and debris likes collecting in there. The third row (if so equipped) is kind of a joke, but it’s designed for small children, and at that age they don’t care much about leg room. I’ve had issues with the car battery draining if the proximity key is kept too close, e.g. Car in garage, keys on a hook just inside the house, where they’re just within range.
Do you need 3 rows, or just 2?
Also consider the Mazda crossover family (CX-5, CX-7, CX-9), Hyundai/Kia family (Veracruz, Santa Fe, Tucson, Sorento, Sportage), and Ford's family (Ford Escape, Mercury Mariner, Mazda Tribute, or if new, Lincoln MKC, and the Ford Edgd/Lincoln MKZ).
![]() 07/26/2015 at 18:10 |
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Maybe this one will. Bonus points for brown! Anyway, we do not want another Mazda, mainly from a family aversion to owning two vehicles of the same make twice in a row, but also because our 3 has left a bad taste in our mouths in terms of comfort/value (I really don’t fit in it well at all with both our kid’s carseats inside, and whoever designed the seats is clearly guilty of some form of torture, there is no way a Fiat 500 should be more roomy inside than a Mazda3 hatch, yet mine apparently is). We don’t REALLY need 7 seats, but my wife liked having them in our Disco, so she definitely considers them a bonus. Anything made by Ford is out, my wife hates Fords despite my best efforts (although the shitbox loaner ‘12 Focus that the Mazda dealer gave us once sure didn’t help, how can a car with less than 20k miles on it have the aluminum paint rubbed off all the trim?!) We have looked at some of the Kia/Hyundai offerings, especially the Sorento, because there was a manual option for a few years recently, although she doesn’t want to get a base model just to get a manual. Since it’s mainly her dd, she really gets most of the say, and on our current list she likes this Outlander the most, followed by a manual Forester (with leather seats, Subaru you are awesome), and an LR3, because she loved my Disco when I had it. She also kinda likes the GMC Acadia, mainly thanks to the rear bucket seats, but I’m not a fan of anything I see more than 10 of on a typical day driving back and forth to work. The only real rules I got to impose is that it has to be able to tow my boat, which sadly eliminates most of the wagon options, save the Volvo XC70 and Subaru Outback, and that it can’t have a CVT.
http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/…
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Gotcha.
Avoid the Acadia/Travesty/Enclave/Outlook. They’re bloated litter boxes with awful turning radii, wonky electronics, and typical gm build quality and reliability (that is, not great). If she likes that size, a Nissan Pathfinder/Infiniti QX60/JX35, Ford Explorer/Flex/Lincoln MKT, Dodge Durango/Jeep Grand Cherokee, Honda Pilot/Acura MDX, etc., might be a better fit. Or a minivan. Also the Kia Borrego, depending how far you want to go back.
Of your choices I’d get the LR3 /4 most, but I wouldn’t get it without a warranty, haha. Foresters are a good overall package, but I have quibbles over the thinness of the body, quality of the paint, interior quality, and cost of tires, as Subaru uses an AWD system that requires less than 2-4/32” of difference (depending on model) between the tires, so if one tire has to be replaced at, say 30k miles due to damage, all four have to be replaced or the AWD system is toast. If you like the Forester, though, don’t forget the Tribeca.
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Roger that